User talk:Francesco Gelati

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Welcome

Hi Francesco,

just a brief welcome also on this site. You have managed the first QuickStatement input; it seems you know how to run this. For compatibility reasons it would be good if we could use the same label conventions - where we have adopted those of Wikidata again for the sake of compatibility. The hard core information of given names and family names is in the name statements anyway. Item:Q1308 gives you insight of how we have been organising things. And: Let me know if I can help with clues how to do things. Preparing the input will be the terrible work (especially where family names have to be first generated, where places are missing - or where they have to be matched...) We will get a tool to do this: OpenRefine; that, however, does not yet work on external Wikibases; they are working on the adaptation. I organise mappings of data (e.g. matching place names) on Excel, not ideal but one can do. You might know better ways. --Olaf Simons (talk) 11:08, 31 January 2020 (CET)



Dear Olaf,

thanks for your kind message and for all of your help and support. Yes I did a CSV manual test ingest and I do have a couple of questions. Shall we post our Q&A here? FactGrid:Help

1) I was not able to enter a date of death. Neither our specific nor the ISO notation can be used as free text. I tried to learn from already existing entries how to express dates, or any kind of value which is to be expressed as literal, even as a combination of value plus item, but I failed to find info; see: FactGrid properties for dates. What should I change in e.g.

qid,P38

Q140813,10.05.1993

2) What about the properties? Are we allowed to use Factgrid-properties only? I would like to use some Wikidata properties as well as the International Council on Archives Ontology that, being myself a Diplom-Archivar, I personally cherish. The GND Ontology is an option too. I will anyhow be happy to file new property requests on Factgrid.

I do not see either a better option than OpenRefine. Yet I am still thinking on how the workflow should proceed from our tailored XML-export. I am indeed mapping data fields both to linked data, and to the archival XML standard for authority records, EAC - Encoded Archival Context. Since the workflow involves in any case several semi-automatic steps, I am not afraid of cleaning and referencing the data on OpenRefine. Before a real dataset ingest, I believe a memorandum will be necessary with our institutions. We are still discussing internally some issues so for the moment I may unfortunately only play around. Yet I will use this lapse of time also in order to do the mapping and to develop things further. Thanks for your help, --Francesco Gelati (talk) 14:28, 31 January 2020 (CET)