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I have just entered the genders. I have also made a list of first names of which I do not know the gender for sure: | I have just entered the genders. I have also made a list of first names of which I do not know the gender for sure: | ||
* Brunelle (Joineau); | * Brunelle (Joineau); female | ||
* Bulfinch (Lamb); | * Bulfinch (Lamb); male | ||
* Filmore (Southouse); | * Filmore (Southouse); male | ||
* Handrin (Barre); | * Handrin (Barre); male | ||
* J.-J. (Doladille); | * J.-J. (Doladille); male (Jean-Jacques Doladille) | ||
* Joan; | * Joan; female | ||
* Josiah (Bundy); | * Josiah (Bundy); male | ||
* Josué (Prade); | * Josué (Prade); male | ||
* M. (Kemp); | * M. (Kemp); female | ||
* M. (De Beaulieu); | * M. (De Beaulieu); male | ||
* M.C. (Bouché); | * M.C. (Bouché); | ||
* N. (Browne); | * N. (Browne); | ||
* P. (De Gaujac); | * P. (De Gaujac); male | ||
* Shepherd (Wolf) | * Shepherd (Wolf) male | ||
Genders added above (when known) [[User:Lionel Laborie|Lionel Laborie]] ([[User talk:Lionel Laborie|talk]]) 16:17, 16 June 2021 (CEST) | |||
I was also wondering whether it is beneficial to make separate columns for second names and nicknames? [[User:Sophie de Leeuw|Sophie de Leeuw]] ([[User talk:Sophie de Leeuw|talk]]) 20:56, 14 June 2021 (CEST) | I was also wondering whether it is beneficial to make separate columns for second names and nicknames? [[User:Sophie de Leeuw|Sophie de Leeuw]] ([[User talk:Sophie de Leeuw|talk]]) 20:56, 14 June 2021 (CEST) |
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First task: Gender. I sorted the table by name, so that you have less of a problem to decide which gender these people are - columns I is for gender, f and m. Best --Olaf Simons (talk) 18:02, 12 June 2021 (CEST)
I have just entered the genders. I have also made a list of first names of which I do not know the gender for sure:
- Brunelle (Joineau); female
- Bulfinch (Lamb); male
- Filmore (Southouse); male
- Handrin (Barre); male
- J.-J. (Doladille); male (Jean-Jacques Doladille)
- Joan; female
- Josiah (Bundy); male
- Josué (Prade); male
- M. (Kemp); female
- M. (De Beaulieu); male
- M.C. (Bouché);
- N. (Browne);
- P. (De Gaujac); male
- Shepherd (Wolf) male
Genders added above (when known) Lionel Laborie (talk) 16:17, 16 June 2021 (CEST)
I was also wondering whether it is beneficial to make separate columns for second names and nicknames? Sophie de Leeuw (talk) 20:56, 14 June 2021 (CEST)
- We will need qualifiers for that, too. - later when polishing the thing and solving all the remaining riddles. --Olaf Simons (talk) 00:02, 15 June 2021 (CEST)
In the column 'religion' there are sometimes question marks. I suppose this means that we think someone has religion 'x', but that we are not sure. Which qualifier should I use to indicate that? Sophie de Leeuw (talk) 12:44, 15 June 2021 (CEST)
- There is a particular qualifier "how sure is this" Property:P155 - and that should also be used if you state "presumably" on a date. --Olaf Simons (talk) 14:00, 15 June 2021 (CEST)
- And do not worry about the "presumably statements you have already set - they don't do any harm. We can just add how sure statements on top.
- Congrats by the way for having managed you own first mass imputs. That was the worst thing to learn and you did it. --Olaf Simons (talk) 14:06, 15 June 2021 (CEST)
- And do not worry about the "presumably statements you have already set - they don't do any harm. We can just add how sure statements on top.
- There is a particular qualifier "how sure is this" Property:P155 - and that should also be used if you state "presumably" on a date. --Olaf Simons (talk) 14:00, 15 June 2021 (CEST)
Looking at the 'special FactGrid items to use on this property' stated under the qualifier "how sure is this" Property:P155, multiple seem fitting. When Lionel has marked a religious affiliation with an '?', should I for instance use 'presumably', 'possibly' or 'context-based assumption'? And what option should I choose when one person has multiple religions marked with a '?' (like 'A? Ph?'), maybe 'the sources extant do not allow a decision between the alternatives stated'? By the way, can Lionel also read this chat? Sophie de Leeuw (talk) 15:41, 15 June 2021 (CEST)
- Sure - Lionel can read this (as everyone else); he has to decide how he wants his data stated. As you realise we can create actually any statement just as we can generate any P-Number and any Q-Object with any "Label" in any language. So consider with him, what he would love to read on his statements. Just by the way: any statement is also open to be referenced with any number of archival sources. Best --Olaf Simons (talk) 15:54, 15 June 2021 (CEST)