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== [[Item:Q636357]] - abstract art, one way or another... == | == [[Item:Q636357]] - abstract art, one way or another... == | ||
I ([[User:Olaf Simons|Olaf Simons]] ([[User talk:Olaf Simons|talk]])) am moving the following | I ([[User:Olaf Simons|Olaf Simons]] ([[User talk:Olaf Simons|talk]])) am moving the following remarks of [[User:Martin Gollasch]] from the talk page of [[Item:Q636357]] to the user page that should be addressed here: | ||
::Hello Marie-Alice, regarding the [https://tinyurl.com/ylrnyg9q other items instance of Type of work], Abstract art, is more an ''art genre'' regarding Wikidata's [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q128115 abstract art]. You could create a FactGrid item equivalent to [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1792379 art genre] and declare that [[Item:Q636357]] is an instance of the aforementioned. | ::Hello Marie-Alice, regarding the [https://tinyurl.com/ylrnyg9q other items instance of Type of work], Abstract art, is more an ''art genre'' regarding Wikidata's [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q128115 abstract art]. You could create a FactGrid item equivalent to [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1792379 art genre] and declare that [[Item:Q636357]] is an instance of the aforementioned. | ||
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Looking at the history I think I know what | Looking at the history I think I know what happened. The Iconclass perspective - "abstract art" went into a Wikipedia link on abstract art, and a German label of that topic. | ||
Links to Wikipedia must go to an 100% match of the item. Further reading on abstract art (in Wikipedia) can be a property "online information, but not an external identifier. | Links to Wikipedia must go to an 100% match of the item. Further reading on abstract art (in Wikipedia) can be a property "online information", but not an external identifier. | ||
I am, just by the way, not quite sure what kind of project we are entering here. I could imagine a research projet on wine labels with a clear research question and a defined body of items, but I would not consider to feed all the wine labels of the world into FactGrid. (Wikidata is presently flooded with scientific research articles - bibliographic information and this is a problem). We should focus on defined research questions and on projects that can be discussed in the field of historical research. I can well imagine a project on wine labels, but so far no one has introduced this project with its aims and potentials. --[[User:Olaf Simons|Olaf Simons]] ([[User talk:Olaf Simons|talk]]) 11:33, 24 October 2023 (CEST) | I am, just by the way, not quite sure what kind of project we are entering here. I could imagine a research projet on wine labels with a clear research question and a defined body of items, but I would not consider to feed all the wine labels of the world into FactGrid. (Wikidata is presently flooded with scientific research articles - bibliographic information and this is a problem). We should focus on defined research questions and on projects that can be discussed in the field of historical research. I can well imagine a project on wine labels, but so far no one has introduced this project with its aims and potentials. --[[User:Olaf Simons|Olaf Simons]] ([[User talk:Olaf Simons|talk]]) 11:33, 24 October 2023 (CEST) | ||
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Hi, I am the archivist for the Centre de recherche bretonne et celtique (CRBC) at Université de Bretagne occidentale (UBO, Brest). I work with Jean-Baptiste Pressac, who contacted Factgrid recently, on making available descriptions and data from archival fonds preserved by the CRBC. I'm currently working on a private family fonds (Miorcec de Kerdanet) who have more than 50 related individuals identified in their papers, with links to historical French and Breton institutions and agents of justice as well as writers and researchers from the 19th century. I'm currently looking for an open tool to generate a family tree people interested in the fonds might consult during their research.
Item:Q636357 - abstract art, one way or another...
I (Olaf Simons (talk)) am moving the following remarks of User:Martin Gollasch from the talk page of Item:Q636357 to the user page that should be addressed here:
- Hello Marie-Alice, regarding the other items instance of Type of work, Abstract art, is more an art genre regarding Wikidata's abstract art. You could create a FactGrid item equivalent to art genre and declare that Item:Q636357 is an instance of the aforementioned.
- Something is going wrong here: the German label is translated "abstract art", English and French label describe a special vine label. That needs definitely a clean up. You should not change the content of an item. Better create a new one. This is a total mess...--Martin Gollasch (talk) 10:13, 24 October 2023 (CEST)
Looking at the history I think I know what happened. The Iconclass perspective - "abstract art" went into a Wikipedia link on abstract art, and a German label of that topic.
Links to Wikipedia must go to an 100% match of the item. Further reading on abstract art (in Wikipedia) can be a property "online information", but not an external identifier.
I am, just by the way, not quite sure what kind of project we are entering here. I could imagine a research projet on wine labels with a clear research question and a defined body of items, but I would not consider to feed all the wine labels of the world into FactGrid. (Wikidata is presently flooded with scientific research articles - bibliographic information and this is a problem). We should focus on defined research questions and on projects that can be discussed in the field of historical research. I can well imagine a project on wine labels, but so far no one has introduced this project with its aims and potentials. --Olaf Simons (talk) 11:33, 24 October 2023 (CEST)