FactGrid talk:Career Statements
The present mess
Our present way to deal with career statements is still messy. The reason for this is historical. We started with an input from German address books - loading here everything from "baker" to "widow of a merchant" and "Doctor of medicine and senator" on a single Property Property:P165 - a property which eventually needed that extra broad label "career statement".
The mess increases with an attempt to use DeepL for translations into English and French. It worked well with simple trades like "Baker" but created a mess with all the rarer names of historical trades.
A third insecurity came into the field with the neighbouring Property:P164 for "offices held" - here we began to link to very specific offices like Pastorate Altenbergen. Some of these specific terms also received the P2-statement "career statement".
The various problems we created will not be solved that easily. We have got:
- unnecessary variations: Laquai, Lakei
- compound statements of the sort "Carpenter's widow" and a status of deceased husband"-Statement: Carpenter)
- compound statements where people had different positions and occupations
- academic titles which we could just state under their own property Property:P170
- honorary titles such as "Senator", or "Privy councillor" (de: Geheimrat) which should perhaps rather be seen as awards under that property
- German labels where automatic translations did do their job
Katrin Moeller's OhdAB Database on FactGrid
- Project page FactGrid:OhdAB-Datenbank
- All FactGrid "Career statements" without OhdAB-categorisation, with proposals = 3014 items as of 2023-12-14
- All Career Statements with a OhdAB-categorisation = 3335 items as of 2023-12-14
Problem of the three properties: P165: Career Statements, P164: Positions, P166: specific positions
Wikidata has basically two properties: Occupation (P106) and Position held (P39]).
The FactGrid equivalents are Career statement Property:P165 and Office held Property:P164. Our "Career statement" property is more inclusive, allowing all the statements one might find on a personal record (such as retired, pensioner, widow, candidate of theology).
The additional Property:P166 came into use in order to state specific job descriptions on items such as Pastorate Altenbergen. It might make sense to fuse this Property into Property:P165.
Could we go a whole step further and reduce everything to Career statement Property:P165 statements? Not that easily if we still want to be able to run a simple count on all the shoemakers of a town. We might have to cleanse our career statements for that purpose of all statements that refer to specific positions in regiments etc.
Statistics
It is not yet possible to run statistics on our career statements. At the moment we will get widely scattered fields of often extremely specific statements. Pies or bubble graphs will need succinct reductions to work with. A first pattern could be:
- Church
- Military
- Law, government and administration
- Crafts
- Commerce
- Agriculture
- Education and academia
- Artists and writers
- Servants
- Prostitutes and mistresses
- Landed property
- Unemployed / sick people / students/
We can run several patterns side by side - all they need is Properties and the respective statements on our career statements.
Wives are a difficult category - in a way they are a group of their own, in a way they belong to the trade of their husbands up to thee "professor's wife" who is eager to be noted in this condition.
Check
- Item:Q469543 Grapengießer müsste zur Metallverarbeitung
- Item:Q23208 Admiralissimus der Theocratie
- Item:Q36810 bekam doppelte Zuweisung - doch unterschiedlich
Verschiedene Statistiken
Statistik des Produktionsprozesses
- Landwirtschaft
- Rohstoffförderung
- Handwerkliche Verarbeitung
- Industrielle Verarbeitung
- Handel
- Firmenverwaltung
- Öffentliche Verwaltung
- Firmenmanagement
- Öffentliche Amtsführung
- Bildung
- Wissenschaft
Wirtschaftszweige nach Rohstoffen
Tierverwendung
Reichweite
- Global
- International
- National
- Regional
- Urban
- Dörflich
Ausbildungshöhe
- ohne Ausbildung (Tagelöhner)
- Familiär / Tradition (Landwirtschaft)
- Lehre / Meister
- Praktisches Bildungssystem (Fachschulen)
- Höheres Bildungssystem (Universitäten)