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== Kontakte ==
'''Kontakt'''


* Olaf Simons, olaf.simons@pierre-marteau.com, Büro  +49-361-737-1722, Mobil: +49-179-5196880
* Olaf Simons, olaf.simons@pierre-marteau.com, Büro  +49-361-737-1722, Mobil: +49-179-5196880
* Wikimedia.de 49-30-219 15 826-0
* Wikimedia.de 49-30-219 15 826-0
* Uni Rechenzentrum Erfurt: Datenbankbetreuung: Tobias Weller tobias.weller@uni-erfurt.de, +49 361 737-5468


== Aktuelle Installationsschwierigkeiten ==
== Project: Getting a richer data environment ==
* We have realised that editing individual statements is possible and still quite easy on a Wikibase installation - but everything but the ideal way to cope with the medium. The Wikidata community learns how to use the database and its quiery services as it is not working on an empty platform. There are already things there to search and to connect - and to add to.
* We need a plan how we could - with strategic wisdom - integrated larger amounts of data from
:* Wikidata [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Main_Page https://www.wikidata.org/]
:* The German GND [http://www.dnb.de/DE/Home/home_node.html http://www.dnb.de]
:* The English ESTC [http://estc.bl.uk/F/?func=file&file_name=login-bl-estc http://estc.bl.uk], [https://estc21.wordpress.com/collecting-data/ blog post on developments],
:* The German VD16 [https://opacplus.bib-bvb.de/TouchPoint_touchpoint/start.do?SearchProfile=Altbestand&SearchType=2], VD17 [http://www.vd17.de/], VD18 [http://gso.gbv.de/DB=1.65/?COOKIE=U999,K999,D1.65,Edfcfe1a2-12,I0,B9994++++++,SY,A,H12-15,,17-23,,30,,73-78,,88-90,NGAST,R81.82.239.169,FN]
:* The Dutch STCN [https://www.kb.nl/organisatie/onderzoek-expertise/informatie-infrastructuur-diensten-voor-bibliotheken/short-title-catalogue-netherlands-stcn]
* The project should be of interest to Wikidata as we would serve as a testcase and entry point of these data sets.
* We would need an idea ow to mine these databases systematically (We will not be interested in the entire GND or in running a Wikidata fork. We might should think of selective inputs (like all people with particular birth years...)
* We will need a tool to - automatically - hunt and merge double entries if we merge database information from these sources.


Status Quo: Die vorliegende Wikibase-Installation läuft. Noch muss ein Postfach mit ihr verbunden werden, und eine SSL-Zertifikat beantragt und eingespielt werden (Aufgaben Olaf Simons gegenüber Rechenzentrum).
== Project: The WikiBase Interface ==


Für den zentralen der vier Werkverträge ist Quickstatements essenziell. Hier ist bislang unklar, wie wir eine funktionsfähige Installation bewerkstelligen.
See [https://blog.factgrid.de/archives/964 Needed thing #3: An attractive Wikibase-Interface for browsing and reading Wikibase information]


=== Quickstatements ===
== Web Input Forms ==
Für das Einfügen tabellarischer Daten (aus Excel etc.) benötigt die WikiBase-Istallation Magnus Manskes Quickstatements - Version 2.
* [[Web Forms|Designing Web Forms]]


* https://tools.wmflabs.org/wikidata-todo/quick_statements.php
== Community building ==
* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0TYQ9LRRTQ
Wir sollten Kontakt aufnehmen zu allen die eine Wikibase Installation laufen lassen:
* https://wikiapiary.com/wiki/Extension:Wikibase_Repository
 
== Starthilfen ==
* [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Contents Benutzerhandbuch]
* [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Manual:Configuration_settings Liste der Konfigurationsvariablen]
* [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Manual:FAQ MediaWiki-FAQ]
* [https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-announce Mailingliste neuer MediaWiki-Versionen]
* [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Localisation#Translation_resources Übersetze MediaWiki für deine Sprache]
* [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Manual:Combating_spam Erfahre, wie du Spam auf deinem Wiki bekämpfen kannst]
 
== PhiloBiblon ==
 
I would like to introduce PhiloBiblon, a new FactGrid project, and seek your advice on first steps.
 
PhiloBiblon is a database of the romance vernacular sources of medieval and early modern Iberian culture: the primary sources themselves, both MS and printed,
the texts they contain, the individuals involved with the production and transmission of those sources and texts, the libraries holding them, along with relevant secondary references and authority files for persons, places, and institutions.
 
PhiloBiblon consists of four separate bibliographies, with a cumulative total of ~415,000 records. Each of these has its own Home Page on the current PhiloBiblon website at UC Berkeley: https://bancroft.berkeley.edu/philobiblon/
 
1. BETA / Bibliografía Española de Textos Antiguos: Medieval texts in Spanish. (https://bancroft.berkeley.edu/philobiblon/beta_en.html) FactGrid Item:Q254471


Es sieht so aus, als ob das nur installierbar ist, wenn eine SPARQL installation läuft.  
2. BIPA / Bibliografía de la Poesía Áurea: Golden Age Poetry (16th-17th c.) in Spanish:  https://bancroft.berkeley.edu/philobiblon/bipa_en.html


=== SPARQL ===
3. BITAGAP / Bibliografia de Textos Antigos Galegos e Portugueses: Medieval texts in Galician, Galician-Portuguese, and Portuguese: https://bancroft.berkeley.edu/philobiblon/bitagap_en.html
SPARQL scheint sich nicht so einfach auf eine Wikibase Installation außerhalb von Wikidata ausrichten zu lassen.


* https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:SPARQL_query_service/queries/examples
4. BITECA / Bibliografia de Textos Antics Catalans, Valencians i Balears: Medieval texts in Catalan: https://bancroft.berkeley.edu/philobiblon/biteca_en.html


== Reasonator ==
PhiloBiblon currently runs on a relational DBMS under Windows with tables for ten entities: (1) Persons, (2) Institutions, (3) Libraries, (4) Toponyms, (5) Primary sources [MSS and early prints], (6) Copies [additional copies of early prints], (7) Texts, (8) Witnesses [a copy of a text in a given primary source], (9) Subject headings, (10) Secondary sources.
Kontakt mit Magnus Manske aufgenommen. Das Programm scheint nicht ohne weiteres außerhalb des Wikidata-Bereicchs zu laufen.  


== Squid ==
We have a detailed data dictionary for each table.
Die Probleme scheinen ähnlich gelagert wie beim Reasonator und bei SPARQL.


== Community building ==
My first question: What general advice would you give me about using FactGrid?
Wir sollten Kontakt aufnehmen zu allen die eine Wikibase Installation laufen lassen:
* https://wikiapiary.com/wiki/Extension:Wikibase_Repository


== Status Quo ==
My second question: What’s the most efficient way to create FactGrid data models for these ten entities?


* Soll das Wiki auf Englisch oder Deutsch als Hauptsprache laufen?
I know that FactGrid has existing data models for most if not all of these entities, but a preliminary look suggests that in some cases they will need to be extended to accommodate PhiloBiblon data.
:: Derzeit Deutsch, es wird aber auf englische Hilfeseiten verlinkt und bubble help scheint auch Englisch zu sein.
:::Ich bin ja langfristig für Englisch... ansonsten immer für die Lösung mit der besseren Hilfe-Abteilung. --[[Benutzer:O. Simons|O. Simons]] ([[Benutzer Diskussion:O. Simons|Diskussion]]) 22:03, 18. Jan. 2018 (CET)


* definitiv ist ein funktionierendes SPARQL-Interface Voraussetzung für Reasonator, SQUID und Quickstatements.  
Olaf has suggested that we start with toponyms, libraries, and institutions so that the FactGrid Q# will be available for the creation of other entities.
--[[Benutzer:Test|Test]] ([[Benutzer Diskussion:Test|Diskussion]]) 18:47, 18. Jan. 2018 (CET)
--[[User:Charles Faulhaber|Charles Faulhaber]] ([[User talk:Charles Faulhaber|talk]]) 22:00, 24 May 2021 (CEST)
[[File:Serpiente alquimica.jpg|thumb|]]
:In the German Wikisource the experienced Users recommended for Newby's a look at "Pope Joan" on questions like yours... And indeed, the German Wikisource article https://de.wikisource.org/wiki/P%C3%A4pstin_Johanna has answers to nearly every question that might arise in their project. So simply get started, search for or/and create your own suitable Pope Joan.--[[User:Martin Gollasch|Martin Gollasch]] ([[User talk:Martin Gollasch|talk]]) 22:26, 24 May 2021 (CEST)

Latest revision as of 22:26, 24 May 2021

Kontakt

  • Olaf Simons, olaf.simons@pierre-marteau.com, Büro +49-361-737-1722, Mobil: +49-179-5196880
  • Wikimedia.de 49-30-219 15 826-0
  • Uni Rechenzentrum Erfurt: Datenbankbetreuung: Tobias Weller tobias.weller@uni-erfurt.de, +49 361 737-5468

Project: Getting a richer data environment

  • We have realised that editing individual statements is possible and still quite easy on a Wikibase installation - but everything but the ideal way to cope with the medium. The Wikidata community learns how to use the database and its quiery services as it is not working on an empty platform. There are already things there to search and to connect - and to add to.
  • We need a plan how we could - with strategic wisdom - integrated larger amounts of data from
  • The project should be of interest to Wikidata as we would serve as a testcase and entry point of these data sets.
  • We would need an idea ow to mine these databases systematically (We will not be interested in the entire GND or in running a Wikidata fork. We might should think of selective inputs (like all people with particular birth years...)
  • We will need a tool to - automatically - hunt and merge double entries if we merge database information from these sources.

Project: The WikiBase Interface

See Needed thing #3: An attractive Wikibase-Interface for browsing and reading Wikibase information

Web Input Forms

Community building

Wir sollten Kontakt aufnehmen zu allen die eine Wikibase Installation laufen lassen:

Starthilfen

PhiloBiblon

I would like to introduce PhiloBiblon, a new FactGrid project, and seek your advice on first steps.

PhiloBiblon is a database of the romance vernacular sources of medieval and early modern Iberian culture: the primary sources themselves, both MS and printed, the texts they contain, the individuals involved with the production and transmission of those sources and texts, the libraries holding them, along with relevant secondary references and authority files for persons, places, and institutions.

PhiloBiblon consists of four separate bibliographies, with a cumulative total of ~415,000 records. Each of these has its own Home Page on the current PhiloBiblon website at UC Berkeley: https://bancroft.berkeley.edu/philobiblon/

1. BETA / Bibliografía Española de Textos Antiguos: Medieval texts in Spanish. (https://bancroft.berkeley.edu/philobiblon/beta_en.html) FactGrid Item:Q254471

2. BIPA / Bibliografía de la Poesía Áurea: Golden Age Poetry (16th-17th c.) in Spanish: https://bancroft.berkeley.edu/philobiblon/bipa_en.html

3. BITAGAP / Bibliografia de Textos Antigos Galegos e Portugueses: Medieval texts in Galician, Galician-Portuguese, and Portuguese: https://bancroft.berkeley.edu/philobiblon/bitagap_en.html

4. BITECA / Bibliografia de Textos Antics Catalans, Valencians i Balears: Medieval texts in Catalan: https://bancroft.berkeley.edu/philobiblon/biteca_en.html

PhiloBiblon currently runs on a relational DBMS under Windows with tables for ten entities: (1) Persons, (2) Institutions, (3) Libraries, (4) Toponyms, (5) Primary sources [MSS and early prints], (6) Copies [additional copies of early prints], (7) Texts, (8) Witnesses [a copy of a text in a given primary source], (9) Subject headings, (10) Secondary sources.

We have a detailed data dictionary for each table.

My first question: What general advice would you give me about using FactGrid?

My second question: What’s the most efficient way to create FactGrid data models for these ten entities?

I know that FactGrid has existing data models for most if not all of these entities, but a preliminary look suggests that in some cases they will need to be extended to accommodate PhiloBiblon data.

Olaf has suggested that we start with toponyms, libraries, and institutions so that the FactGrid Q# will be available for the creation of other entities. --Charles Faulhaber (talk) 22:00, 24 May 2021 (CEST)

Serpiente alquimica.jpg
In the German Wikisource the experienced Users recommended for Newby's a look at "Pope Joan" on questions like yours... And indeed, the German Wikisource article https://de.wikisource.org/wiki/P%C3%A4pstin_Johanna has answers to nearly every question that might arise in their project. So simply get started, search for or/and create your own suitable Pope Joan.--Martin Gollasch (talk) 22:26, 24 May 2021 (CEST)