User talk:Francesco Gelati

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Welcome

Hi Francesco,

just a brief welcome also on this site. You have managed the first QuickStatement input; it seems you know how to run this. For compatibility reasons it would be good if we could use the same label conventions - where we have adopted those of Wikidata again for the sake of compatibility. The hard core information of given names and family names is in the name statements anyway. Item:Q1308 gives you insight of how we have been organising things. And: Let me know if I can help with clues how to do things. Preparing the input will be the terrible work (especially where family names have to be first generated, where places are missing - or where they have to be matched...) We will get a tool to do this: OpenRefine; that, however, does not yet work on external Wikibases; they are working on the adaptation. I organise mappings of data (e.g. matching place names) on Excel, not ideal but one can do. You might know better ways. --Olaf Simons (talk) 11:08, 31 January 2020 (CET)



Dear Olaf,

thanks for your kind message and for all of your help and support. Yes I did a CSV manual test ingest and I do have a couple of questions. Shall we post our Q&A here? FactGrid:Help

1) I was not able to enter a date of death. Neither our specific nor the ISO notation can be used as free text. I tried to learn from already existing entries how to express dates, or any kind of value which is to be expressed as literal, even as a combination of value plus item, but I failed to find info; see: FactGrid properties for dates. What should I change in e.g.

qid,P38

Q140813,10.05.1993

2) What about the properties? Are we allowed to use Factgrid-properties only? I would like to use some Wikidata properties as well as the International Council on Archives Ontology that, being myself a Diplom-Archivar, I personally cherish. The GND Ontology is an option too. I will anyhow be happy to file new property requests on Factgrid.

I do not see either a better option than OpenRefine. Yet I am still thinking on how the workflow should proceed from our tailored XML-export. I am indeed mapping data fields both to linked data, and to the archival XML standard for authority records, EAC - Encoded Archival Context. Since the workflow involves in any case several semi-automatic steps, I am not afraid of cleaning and referencing the data on OpenRefine. Before a real dataset ingest, I believe a memorandum will be necessary with our institutions. We are still discussing internally some issues so for the moment I may unfortunately only play around. Yet I will use this lapse of time also in order to do the mapping and to develop things further. Thanks for your help, --Francesco Gelati (talk) 14:28, 31 January 2020 (CET)

Dear Olaf,

Yes I believe it would be important to have an automated entity reconciliation. Yet how did you create items for e.g. all geonames on Factgrid, and then linked them? Would not it be possible to use, if not Wikidata-properties, at least Wikidata-items? Thanks,

--Francesco Gelati (talk) 17:05, 6 February 2020 (CET)