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::* P131 should note your project - this is an extensive item on P131: [[Item:Q11305]]
::* P131 should note your project - this is an extensive item on P131: [[Item:Q11305]]
::* P329 notes where a document is located. We also have P185 "Archives at" to note the archive of an Institution - why not also of an event? I'd use P185. --[[User:Olaf Simons|Olaf Simons]] ([[User talk:Olaf Simons|talk]]) 17:31, 27 November 2022 (CET)
::* P329 notes where a document is located. We also have P185 "Archives at" to note the archive of an Institution - why not also of an event? I'd use P185. --[[User:Olaf Simons|Olaf Simons]] ([[User talk:Olaf Simons|talk]]) 17:31, 27 November 2022 (CET)
::::My mistake : I wanted to say "P329 instead of P51", like I did on [[Item:Q465301]], instead of [[Item:Q465300]].
::::I'm not convicted by using P185 (WD P485) because on Wikidata it concerns archives producted by a person / family / institution, not archives which concerns someone (it was really not that clear when the property was created on Wikidata).
::::If P31 could also refer to "File" (instead of Document), i could create an item "File" for each archives reference and newspaper, and add them as Primary source P31 for each events ?
::::For example on [[Item:Q465260]], 1 M 2310 could be like that :
::::* Len :File on strikes and coalitions in Loire-Atlantique (France) (1893)
::::* P2 : File
::::* P329 : Archives départementales de la Loire-Atlantique
::::* P10 : 1 M 2310
::::If not I will modify every P51 by P329.
::::Thanks for your advices --[[User:Maïwenn Bourdic|Maïwenn Bourdic]] ([[User talk:Maïwenn Bourdic|talk]]) 13:44, 29 November 2022 (CET)

Revision as of 14:44, 29 November 2022

Primary source and holding Institution

Hi Maïwenn, Primary source P51 should linkt to a document. The "Archives départementales de la Loire-Atlantique" would be mentioned on the document's side with P329 Holding institution and the shelfmark as Qualifier. At least this is how we did it so far... --Olaf Simons (talk) 16:42, 27 November 2022 (CET)

Hi Olaf Simons
Ok, thanks for the notification. I'll correct that for the first event I've imported.
Is this item ok for P329 instead of P131 : Item:Q465301 -- Maïwenn Bourdic (talk) 17:04, 27 November 2022 (CET)
  • P131 should note your project - this is an extensive item on P131: Item:Q11305
  • P329 notes where a document is located. We also have P185 "Archives at" to note the archive of an Institution - why not also of an event? I'd use P185. --Olaf Simons (talk) 17:31, 27 November 2022 (CET)


My mistake : I wanted to say "P329 instead of P51", like I did on Item:Q465301, instead of Item:Q465300.
I'm not convicted by using P185 (WD P485) because on Wikidata it concerns archives producted by a person / family / institution, not archives which concerns someone (it was really not that clear when the property was created on Wikidata).
If P31 could also refer to "File" (instead of Document), i could create an item "File" for each archives reference and newspaper, and add them as Primary source P31 for each events ?
For example on Item:Q465260, 1 M 2310 could be like that :
  • Len :File on strikes and coalitions in Loire-Atlantique (France) (1893)
  • P2 : File
  • P329 : Archives départementales de la Loire-Atlantique
  • P10 : 1 M 2310
If not I will modify every P51 by P329.
Thanks for your advices --Maïwenn Bourdic (talk) 13:44, 29 November 2022 (CET)