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While the [https://database.factgrid.de/w/index.php?title=Item:Q421316&oldid=6383092 current] English and French labels designate this concept as a "mythical entity", the German label "Mythisches Wesen" is closer to "Mythical being", i.e. a lower-order class of Mythical Entity. The German alias "Fabelwesen" (mythical creature) is even more specific. [[User:Jonathan Groß|Jonathan Groß]] ([[User talk:Jonathan Groß|talk]]) 09:59, 20 November 2023 (CET)
While the [https://database.factgrid.de/w/index.php?title=Item:Q421316&oldid=6383092 current] English and French labels designate this concept as a "mythical entity", the German label "Mythisches Wesen" is closer to "Mythical being", i.e. a lower-order class of Mythical Entity. The German alias "Fabelwesen" (mythical creature) is even more specific. [[User:Jonathan Groß|Jonathan Groß]] ([[User talk:Jonathan Groß|talk]]) 09:59, 20 November 2023 (CET)
::We should be far more specific and we will need a data model page for these things. Mythical entities should not stay in the "fictional realm". My initial data model was looking for contexts: [[Item:Q165605]] --[[User:Olaf Simons|Olaf Simons]] ([[User talk:Olaf Simons|talk]]) 10:36, 20 November 2023 (CET)
::We should be far more specific and we will need a data model page for these things. Mythical entities should not stay in the "fictional realm". My initial data model was looking for contexts: [[Item:Q165605]] --[[User:Olaf Simons|Olaf Simons]] ([[User talk:Olaf Simons|talk]]) 10:36, 20 November 2023 (CET)
:: We can follow Wikidata's example, they make the same distinction. There are already several databases in this field (MANTO, Mythoskop), we won't have to reinvent the wheel. I can create a basic ontology here in time. [[User:Jonathan Groß|Jonathan Groß]] ([[User talk:Jonathan Groß|talk]]) 10:56, 20 November 2023 (CET)

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Apparent conflation

While the current English and French labels designate this concept as a "mythical entity", the German label "Mythisches Wesen" is closer to "Mythical being", i.e. a lower-order class of Mythical Entity. The German alias "Fabelwesen" (mythical creature) is even more specific. Jonathan Groß (talk) 09:59, 20 November 2023 (CET)

We should be far more specific and we will need a data model page for these things. Mythical entities should not stay in the "fictional realm". My initial data model was looking for contexts: Item:Q165605 --Olaf Simons (talk) 10:36, 20 November 2023 (CET)
We can follow Wikidata's example, they make the same distinction. There are already several databases in this field (MANTO, Mythoskop), we won't have to reinvent the wheel. I can create a basic ontology here in time. Jonathan Groß (talk) 10:56, 20 November 2023 (CET)